"Past Tense, Part 1"
(Prošlo vrijeme, prvi dio)

Sezona: 3
Epizoda: 11
Datum premijere: 08.01.1995.
Prikazano na HRT-u: 08.01.2009.



Scenaristi: Robert Hewitt Wolfe (teleplay), Ira Steven Behr & Robert Hewitt Wolfe(story)

Redatelj: Reza Badiyi

Stardate: 48481.2 (2371/2024)

Gostujući Glumci:
* Jim Metzler - Christopher Brynner
* Frank Military - B.C.
* Dick Miller - Vin
* Al Rodrigo -Bernardo Calvera
* Tina Lifford - Lee
* Bill Smitrovich - Webb
* Henry Hayashi - Male Guest
* Patty Holley - Female Guest
* Richard Lee Jackson - Danny
* Eric Stuart - Stairway Guard
* John Lendale Bennett - Gabriel Bell

Kratak sadržaj: (preuzeto sa ST centra)
Na putu na konferenciju u San Francisco, Sisko, Dax i Bashir nestaju prilikom teleportacije na zemlju sa Defianta. Njih troje se teleportiraju u San Francisco, ali u godinu 2024. Dvojica policajaca uhite Siska i Bashira i odvode ih u «Utočište» - dio grada gdje su smješteni beskućnici, mentalno bolesni i nezaposleni ljudi, odvojeni od ostatka društva.

Detaljnije informacije: Memory Alpha

Kompletan scenarij: ST Minutae

Background Information:
* The working title of this episode was "Cold and Distant Stars". The original teleplay, written by Robert Hewitt Wolfe, involved Sisko going back in time and ending up homeless. His claims that he was actually from the future and was the commander of a space station prompted those around him to think he was insane, and he is eventually given thorazine. This script was written by Wolfe as a commentary on the apathy of the people of the 20th Century towards the homeless. However, nobody was very happy with the script, including Wolfe himself, until Behr came up with the idea of the Sanctuary Districts and the Bell Riots. (Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Companion)
* Ira Behr's inspiration to create the Bell Riots was the 1971 riot in New York's Attica Prison, which was caused primarily by inmates demands for more humane living conditions being continually ignored by the authorities.
* His inspiration for the Sanctuary Districts very much came from real life in the 20th century; "I was down in Santa Monica one day, and there was all these homeless people there, and it was a beautiful day, the ocean, sky, sun, and homeless people everywhere. And all these tourists, and people up and about, and they were walking past these homeless people as if they were part of the scenery. It was like some artist had done some interesting rendition of juxtaposition between nature and urban decay right there in front of me. And the fact was that nobody seemed to care, at all. And I said, 'There has to be something about that, where does that go? How far do you take that?' And that evolved into the idea for concentration camps essentially for the homeless." (Time Travel Files: "Past Tense", DS9 Season 3 DVD, Special Features)
* What is interesting about Behr's use of the theory of concentration camps is that the term "concentration camp" does not mean the same thing today as it originally did. Today, concentration camps are known as barbaric places of horror, suffering and mass death, mainly due to the Nazi employment of them during World War II, but this is not how they began. Concentration camps were 'invented' by the British army during the 2nd Boer War and were conceived as enclosed areas which could be used as humanitarian centers to help people who had lost their land due to the fighting. The interesting thing is that in reality, these places of aid quickly became places of confinement and punishment, as the British employed a Scorched Earth policy. This is exactly the same way the Sanctuary Districts developed; they were set up to help the needy, but ultimately become places of control and coercion.
* While the episode was filming, an article in The Los Angeles Times described a proposal by the Mayor that the homeless people of that city could be moved to fenced-in areas so as to contain them, in an effort to "make downtown Los Angeles friendlier to business." Alexander Siddig has commented on the amazing coincidence: "The episode was almost a cinematic version of that statement by the LA council." (Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Companion) As Ira Behr comments the plan was "to put aside part of downtown Los Angeles as a haven, nice word, a haven for the homeless." Similarly, as Robert Wolfe says, "That was what the Sanctuary Districts were, places where the homeless could just be so no-one had to see them, and literally there it was in the newspaper. We were a little freaked out." (Time Travel Files: "Past Tense", DS9 Season 3 DVD, Special Features)
* Chris Brynner, Vin, Lee and Bernardo Calvera are all named after characters from the classic 1960 film The Magnificent Seven. Brynner also takes his name from Oscar-winning actor Yul Brynner who plays Chris Adams in the film. B.C. was named after first assistant director B.C. Cameron.
* Bashir's rhetorical question to Sisko, of whether mankind would revert if faced with a real crisis, is addressed again in "Homefront" and "Paradise Lost".
* Ira Steven Behr has said that this episode continues the investigation into the heart of Gene Roddenberry's universe which he began in "The Maquis, Part II". He points out that for society to reach the utopia envisioned by Roddenberry, it had to go through Hell first, and this episode is part of an examination of that Hell. (Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Companion) As Robert Hewitt Wolfe elaborates, "How did we get from where we are today to the Federation? Was it a nice easy smooth ride? Well we know it wasn't. Gene Roddenberry mentioned the Eugenics War and World War III and all sorts of bad things from here to there, so what was the spark, what was the thing that made people think, 'We've got to do better.' And that's what we tried to portray. The whole idea was that the Bell Riots were a formative thing in the history of the Federation because it was what made people feel really bad enough to try to make the Federation." (Time Travel Files: "Past Tense", DS9 Season 3 DVD, Special Features)
* Ira Behr also states that there is a subtle examination of racism in this episode. When Dax is discovered, she is treated like royalty, but when Sisko and Bashir are found, they are treated like criminals. Of this situation, Behr says "the simple fact is that a beautiful white woman is always going to get much better treatment than two brown-skinned men." (Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Companion)
* Starfleet's temporal displacement policy is mentioned for the first time in this episode. This policy, and the officers who enforce it, would return in the fifth season episode "Trials and Tribble-ations".
* This is one of composer Dennis McCarthy's favorite episodes due, paradoxically, to the amount of silence in it. According to the Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Companion, there are only seven minutes of music for this entire episode.
* This episode is also a favorite of Colm Meaney's; "I just thought it was a superb episode in that it captured the, you know, it dealt with the social issue and the social situation that we're familiar with today, but it kind of looked into the future and said if this continues, if this trend continues, what we could end up with, you know, the serious situation we could end up with. And I just thought it was a superb use of the idiom of the genre of science of fiction, to take a contemporary situation that we're all kind of familiar with and aware of as a problem, and to just sort of let's see this as this develops a little bit into the future, and only that much into the future, thirty or forty years, whatever it was, and we don't do something about this, then we have it very serious, and the way the situation was portrayed with almost concentration camps and ghettos being cordoned off from the rest of society, it was very powerful." (Time Travel Files: "Past Tense", DS9 Season 3 DVD, Special Features)
* This episode was the last to air before the premiere of Star Trek: Voyager on 15 January 1995.
* Referenced Rules of Acquisition: #111 ("Treat people in your debt like family...exploit them") and #217 ("You can't free a fish from water")
* Cirroc Lofton (Jake Sisko) does not appear in this episode.


Full puno background infoa ovaj puta

Odlicna epizoda (10)
Valjda malo previse realnosti u utopijskom svijetu ali ovo danas u treku je realna mogucnost u danasnjem svijetu , nazalost ne samo realna mogucnost nego i u nekim djelovima svijeta stvarnost
Uz sve saznali smo i da siskova sestra zivi u portlandu i da je sisko naucio pravila stjecanja

Slazem se sa bashirom da ljudi ponekad nisu nimalo drugaciji od romulanaca ili kardassianaca , cak je i ovo dokaz toga , jednostavno su probleme nezaposlenosti stavili pod tepih i sve to strpali u geto a na kraju i poceli ljude tretirat kao zatvorenike , sto je naravno dovelo do pobune i radikalizacije među getanima

Nazalost sisko je promijenio povijest jer je u pokusaju da ga obrani od napada , poginuo garbriel bell i tako je nestala nada da se spase cuvari kompleksa
No sisko je preuzeo stvari u svoje ruke i poceo porvaljat stanje

Federacija je nestala u međuvremenu a kira i obrien moraju u proslost da spase svoje kolege , dax je imala srece i nasao ju je lokalni (globalni) bogatas
Eto , jedva cekam sutrasnju epizodu serije

Osobno sam razocaran kompom koji su imali, dizajn je katastrofa, bitno da njegov ured ima prozore do poda, a to kaj mu komp ima onak hrpu sive plastike... msilim koji je to dizajn iz šezdesetih..

Hehe, slažem se, mogli su i trebali to malo bolje odraditi.

The name is Bell, Gabriel Bell. Meni osobno jako dobra epizoda i pamtim ih jako dobro od zadnjeg prikazivanja na TV-u. Volim time travel i paradoks epke. I jedva čekam nastavak.

10

Ekipa otputovala u prošlost punih 347 godina

Zbog ove epizode (drugog djela) je Frakes dobio režiju first Contacta

Ono zbog čega sam prvenstveno dao ocjenu 10 je prikaz tog svijeta, toliko drugačijeg od federacijskog. Tamni pogled na budućnost (iz današnjeg kuta gledanja), gotovo terran-empireovski...

I danas živimo u svijetu u kojem su slične stvari stvarnost.... milijuni žive u izbjegličkim kampovima, istjerani ni krivi ni dužni.... samo u aktualnom nam Gaza 'Utočištu' pola milijuna ljudi žive kao izbjeglice u prognaničkim kampovima... postaju ono što je i B.C. (lik sa šeširom ) postao,...
Da nije završio na takvom mjestu, uz posao bi negdje drugdje zarađivao i vjerojatno bio uzoran građanin...

Nastavlja se tamni ton "it's easy to be saint in paradise" pitanja koja postavlja DS9......
Captain je to dobro opisao tako da je meni uštedio još nekoliko redaka tipkanja

Eto, prošlo je oko pola puta između snimanja ove epizode (1995) i radnje u epizodi (2024)
Mislite li da smo sada, na pola puta do 2024. bliži ili dalji svijetu u kojem će takva "Utočišta" i ignoriranje problema bližnjih biti realnost?

U trenutku kad je ekipa snimala epizodu, pobuna u zatvoru Attica zbog nehumanih uvjeta im je poslužila kao inspiracija, kao i svakodnevna scena u Santa Monici. Bio i zaista mogu potvrditi to sto pise u backgroundu da čudno izgleda tamo vidjeti u isto vrijeme i lijep okoliš i beskućnike.
Ono što je najfascinantnije je da kad su snimili epizodu, taman je u novinama bila objavljena ideja da nadležni namjeravaju napraviti nešto vrlo slično kao i u seriji!


... i da ne bude cijeli post u sivom:

"the simple fact is that a beautiful white woman is always going to get much better treatment than two brown-skinned men."






________________
have you been to the desert?
Have you walked with the dead?
There's a hundred thousand children being killed for their bread
And the figures don't lie they speak of human disease
But we do what we want and we think what we please
Have you lived the experience?
Have you witnessed the plague?
People making babies sometimes just to escape
In this land of competition the compassion is gone
Yet we ignore the needy and we keep pushing on
We keep pushing on

(Bad Religion - Punk Rock Song)

9
Super epizoda, posjetiti jedno od mračnijih doba na Zemlji koje je kratko trajalo, alo ostalo zapamćeno i promijenilo dosta toga u svijesti ljudi.

Gabriel Bell aka Sisko mi je bio super u ulozi otmičara mekoga srca.

Još jedna informacija, ova epizoda je na HRT prikazana točno 14 godina nakon premijere:

Nedavno smo obije epizode pogledali u udruzi.

Glavni povod da predložim gledanje ove epizode bile su nedavne vijesti da se i u zemljama tzv.zapadne demokracije korak po korak stvaraju uvjeti da koncentracijski logori za beskučnike, nezaposlene i siromašne postane stvarnost. Kriza i nezaposlenost su već tu, ostaje još samo treba srediti zakone. Odnedavno Mađarska kreće kriminalizirati beskućništvo, a također i u samom SADu (gdje se odvija radnja „Past Tense“-a) je nedavno izglasan zakon čija planirana provedba bolno podsjeća na „Utočišta“ prikazana u epizodi. Iako je nakon bunjenja javnosti zakon odbačen, nije sigurno da ga nakon što se prašina slegne neće opet uvesti u nekom sličnom obliku, a nije ni jedini takav u proceduri. Čak i ako za sada neće biti ništa od toga, zastrašujuće je da se o takvim stvarima uopće i raspravlja, a kamoli da čak dođe do toga da se izglasa. Teeoretičari zavjera bi mogli komentirati da su ti lokalni zakoni tek testiranje da se vidi da li je javnost dovoljno obrađena pa da tako nešto uspije proći. Dojma sam da bi prije 20ak godina bilo nezamisliva pomisao da se u SADu otvaraju takvi koncentracijski kampovi s obzirom da se na kampove Japanaca u 2. svjetskom ratu gledalo kao na tamnu mrlju u inače svijetloj povijesti...

Prošli puta smo ovu epizodu komentirali prije 5 godina i moglo se naći ponešto sličnosti, no sada kada smo tom datumu još bliže, na 2/3 „puta“ između 1994. kad se epizoda snimala i 2024. kada se radnja odvija, izgleda sve izglednije izglednije da bi to mogla postati još jedna od stvari koju je Trek, dosta točno predvidio, zastrašujuće točno. Ostaje pitanje hoće li se i u stvarnosti naći neki Gabrijel Bell čije herojstvo i žrtva će ljude potaknuti da razmisle o sustavu u kojem žive i okrenu se građenju održive budućnosti temeljene na ravnopravnosti i znanosti?

Dok smo bili u udruzi raspravljalo nam se prije i tokom gledanja epizode, poslije više ne, a sljedeći puta je došlo ljudi koji nisu gledali epizodu pa nismo ni tada. No ako ima zainteresiranih, možemo i ovdje

Sa obzirom na novonastalu situaciju ova je epizoda jako ozbiljne tematike i treba se njoj vrlo ozbiljno pristupiti. U svakom slucaju moramo se boriti protiv bilo kakve segregacije ili guranja ljudi u "kampove" svi znamo kako je to lose proslo za Zidove, danas su to siromasni, sutra su to svi mi. Treba se boriti, a ne samo biti foteljski aktivisti.

Interesantno je kako je 1994 u te dvi DS9 epizode gotovo pogođena situacija koju imamo danas ..financijska kriza , velika razlika bogatih i siromašnih i puno ljudi koji su od srednje klase došli do siromaštva , nezaposlenosti i dosta ih je završilo na ulici
Star Trek je nažalost ako ne potpuno barem dijelomično predvidija budućnost ... navikli smo da trek predviđa napredak u znanosti i tehnologiji ali ovaj put je nažalost predvidija nešto šta se uistinu događa a ružno je

Nadam se da se onaj ww3 ipak neće obistinit

Za WW3 se ne trebamo brinut. Bogati su previše inteligentni da s ratom riskiraju da izgube sve ovo što su do sad stekli.
No inače da šta reći? Pomalo je zastrašujuće gledajući iz današnje perspektive koliko je Past Tense bio proricajuć. No ono što je još žalosnije je to što bi danas mnogim kapitalistima ova epizoda bila previše "liberalna" i "preachy".

Zapravo vrlo logična misao suiki

Možda manjih ratova bude bilo i dalje ali taj ww3 u ovakvom odnosu snaga na sriću možemo zaboravit ..nije da ga želim ma koliko god je razlog zbog kojeg se neće dogodit tek tako lako , zapravo nevaljan
Veliki kapitalisti ne žele pad profita i nesigurnost a oni drugi su presiromašni i dezorganizirani da bi nešto počeli ..svaka politika mora bit financirana pa ako financijeri ne žele rat , rata nemože bit
Problem je šta neoliberalni kapitalisti drže za jaja čitav svit i defacto im nitko nemože ništa

WW3 ako se i dogodi dogodice upravo zbog americkog kapatlizma i trpanje Zapada i njihovog 4. Riecha u sve i svasta. Sa druge strane ne samo da postoji ekomska osnova za WW3 vec i verska , jer ce USA the Messiah baciti svoj oganj na gresnike "demokratije" i "slobode" tako da ocekujemo rat izmedju hrisanstva i islama u Evropi kada Islam 2040-2050 porpuno zavlada Evropom. Da se razumemo ja nemam nista protiv Islama kao religije , cak sam na fakultetu branio moju koleginicu koja nosi maramu dok su je drugi osudjivali i govorili kako treba kao u Svajcerskoj da se to zabrani. Ali ljuidi moji to je njiohovo versko pravo ,a slobodarska Svajcarska uskracuje jednoj grupaciji versko pravo! Bogovi moji ...sta docekasste od mene da ja branim Islam auuu.... the worst of the worsts religion i apsolutni lider u zatucanostu mozda jedno ispred par Hriscanskih denominacija ..... ali vidite postoji ljudi koji govore o slobodi i liberazlimu ,bas poput Svajcarske ,a kada to trebaju da primene u praksi postaju uzasni i donose zakone koje sve samo ne nisu liberlani. Vidite , to su liberali , demokrate i slobodnjaci ,ali samo po zanimalnju

Kapitalizam je ZMIJA koja mora biti UNISTENA kad-tad jer nam se u suprtnom slucaju crno pise. To vam je klasican robovski sistem utkan u platno neke slobode gde veliki imaju pravo da se igraju sa ljudima kako oni zele ,a da ti nemas pravo nista da kazes vec samo cutis i gledas da neces dobiti otlaz. Nekad su talvi robovi bili bacani lavovima ,a danas dobijas otkaz! Kada malo bolje razmislis nista se nije promenilo Taj isti feudalni sistem nema nikavo uporoste u dusama ljudi ,a pogotoo ne u dusama Slovena koji su ziveli u plemeskoj demokratiji ,a onda dosao hrisanski feudalizam nama potpuno stran. Sve je kod ljudi robovlasnitvo i ekslatacija slabih od religije do nauke. Pa BOG nam je takav! Dakle duhovnost nam je robovlasnicka sta dalje da oceukujem...

Ne bi nikada voleo da se dogodi WW3 ,ali bi isto toliko voleo da nesto zbrise nas stoku jednom za svagda! Stoku , koja sve sto dotakne unistava i koja misli samo na sebe dok svojim prljvaim papcima prekrivenim balegom gazi i rovovari po Zemlji i okolo sve prlja gde god naidje.

Da, pitanje je samo kako tome stati na kraj, kapitalizam i liberalizam, su već toliko potkopali društvo i napravili takvu kakofoniju prava, potreba, izbora i predrasuda da je većini ljudi lakše glavu zabiti u guz...pijesak.