"The Jem'Hadar"
(Jem'Hadari)

Sezona: 2
Epizoda: 26
Datum premijere: 12.07.1994.
Prikazano na HRT-u: 17.12.2008.



Scenaristi: Ira Steven Behr

Redatelj: Kim Friedman

Gostujući Glumci:
* Alan Oppenheimer - Captain Keogh
* Aron Eisenberg - Nog
* Cress Williams - Third Talak'talan
* Molly Hagan - Eris
* Michael Jace - First Officer
* Sandra Grando - Second Officer
* Majel Barrett - computer voice

Stardate: 47987.5 (2370)

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Siskovi planovi o mirnom izletu s Jakeom nepovratno su uništeni kada Jake poziva Noga da ih prati na putu u Gama kvadrant. Quark inzistira na tome da prati svog nećaka, i ne tako sretna četveročlana grupa završi na kampiranju na primitivnom, nenaseljenom planetu. Quark i Sisko se svađaju, te tako otjeraju osramoćenog Noga u šumu, a Jake ga odlazi za njime. Nešto kasnije, prestravljena tuđinska žena istrči iz šume, govoreći Sisku i Quarku kako bježi pred grupom tuđinskih vojnika vojnika pod nazivom Jem' Hadari koji se tada iznenadno pojavljuju i uzimaju trojac kao zarobljenike.

Detaljnije informacije: Memory Alpha

Kompletan scenarij: ST Minutae

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* The original script for this episode mentions that the Jem'Hadar shroud is similar to that employed by the Tosk. It also notes that the Tosk were engineered as a gift to the Hunters as a reward for their loyalty to the Dominion, thus establishing that the Hunters and Tosk were Dominion members. Robert Hewitt Wolfe confirms this connection, saying, "'You want some Tosks that you can hunt, the Vorta will provide them for you.' The thought behind this is that the same people who breed the Tosks as gifts to the hunters, breed the Jem'Hadar as well." (Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Companion) However, none of this was actually mentioned in the episode itself.
* According to writer Robert Hewitt Wolfe, the Dominion knew about the Federation long before the discovery of the Bajoran wormhole and had plans to deal with it when the time came. However, the Dominion did not expect contact with the Alpha Quadrant for another 200 years, which is explained in "The Search, Part I". With the wormhole providing immediate access between the Alpha and Gamma Quadrants, Wolfe says the Dominion's plans for the Federation were disrupted, which explains why it chose to observe and gather information until the end of the second season.
* Of the organization of the Dominion, Robert Wolfe explains, "The businessmen, the Vorta, were the negotiators, the friendly guys who show up with the carrot. 'Hey, we're your friends. Have some phaser rifles, or space travel, whatever the hell you want. We'll arrange it. All you'll have to do is owe us.' Then, if you don't tow the line, they kick your ass with the Jem'Hadar." (Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Companion)
* Writer/producer Ira Steven Behr admits that mistakes were made in the process of defining the personality and nature of the Vorta. This is most evident in the lack of telekinetic powers among later Vorta characters, and the fact that Eris did nothing to acknowledge Odo as a Founder.
* The working title of the episode was "The Dominion".
* In an early version of the script, Quark cited the Hundred Years' War, the Auschwitz concentration camp and the Tarsus IV massacre as barbaric events that nothing in Ferengi history could match.
* After Quark's speech in which he concludes that the Ferengi are less barbaric than humans and thus better, the stage directions say that, while Sisko is not at all convinced, Quark's words give him food for thought. According to Ira Steven Behr, "We were going into the end of the second season and it was time to lay to rest this long-time feeling that the Ferengi were the 'failed villains' of the Star Trek universe. I wanted people to see them as something else. And if we could show that Sisko, whose character has a lot of weight, would take what Quark says seriously, then the audience would take it seriously." (Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Companion)
* The Odyssey was the third Galaxy-class starship destroyed onscreen, following the USS Yamato and the USS Enterprise-D, which has been destroyed three times during the run of TNG, in the episodes TNG: "Contagion", "Time Squared", "Cause and Effect". Reportedly, a number of fans became nervous when they saw the trailer for this episode, which featured a shot of the Odyssey exploding, which some thought was to be the destruction of the Enterprise-D, since this episode aired weeks after the conclusion of Star Trek: The Next Generation. The choice to make the Odyssey a Galaxy-class starship was to demonstrate that the Jem'Hadar could have destroyed the Enterprise-D had the ship appeared in the episode and to make the Dominion threat all the more terrifying. According to Robert Hewitt Wolfe, "We wanted to show the long-term fans how dangerous these guys were. And it's my belief that if that had been the Enterprise and not the Odyssey, and Picard rather than Keogh in command, it still wouldn't have survived." (Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Companion)
* The Odyssey bridge is of a completely different configuration than the Enterprise-D bridge. It is possible that Star Trek: Deep Space Nine was unable to use the bridge set from The Next Generation as Star Trek Generations was being filmed around this time.
* Of the Jem'Hadar makeup, Michael Westmore explains, "You start with the concept of the rhinoceros nose, but without a horn. If you put a horn on it, viewers would say, 'Oh - rhinoceros.' But what makes Star Trek so interesting is that you give the creature the same feel and meanness by putting little horns all around the face. It makes them dangerous - if you bump into one, you're going to bleed. So you know automatically that you never get close to the Jem'Hadar." (Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Companion)
* This was the last episode for which Michael Piller served as the writing supervisor.
* This episode is the season finale of DS9's second season and features the first appearance of the Jem'Hadar and the Vorta. It also marks the start of the producers' strategy of leaving the audience in suspense and building on events in previous seasons without the use of cliffhangers. This strategy later led the show to take on a serial-like feel, and became quite common for DS9 in later seasons. This was somewhat controversial among Star Trek fans, some of whom felt that Star Trek was not intended to be shown in this manner. However, others felt it was the natural way for a series like DS9 to progress.
* The trade negotiations to which Quark refers began in the episode "Rules of Acquisition", which was the first episode to mention the Dominion. Behr has said this was an intentional way of hinting at future events in an otherwise inconsequential episode. There was also an indirect reference in "Sanctuary" to the fact that the Dominion invaded the Skrreea homeworld, as well as in "Shadowplay".
* A good deal of research and technical upgrading took place some time after this episode, as Federation starships are far less vulnerable than the Odyssey to Dominion weapons in later engagements. When the Dominion attempted to take over Deep Space 9 at the end of season five, Weyoun was surprised to learn that the station's shields were holding despite the fact that they previously had been useless against Dominion weapons (DS9: "Call to Arms").
* The actor who portrayed Captain Keogh, Alan Oppenheimer, was seen previously in the TNG episode "Rightful Heir" as Koroth, the Chief Cleric of Boreth responsible for the cloning of Kahless, and he also portrayed numerous characters on various programs made by Filmation Studios which also produced Star Trek: The Animated Series.
* In the German version of this episode, Morn speaks.
* Referenced Rules of Acquisition: #102 ("Nature decays, but latinum lasts forever")
* The season wrapped on 25th April 1994 (Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Companion)

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Napokon je stigao dominij

Uglavnom prije komentiranja epizode u cijelosti mala referenca na quarkovu izjavu o ljudima i ferengijima , smatram da je izjava poprilicno tocna , ljudi stvarno ponekad vise sebe u ferengijima i zato ih se boje

Spletke dominija su poprilicno uvjerljive i stvarno je izgledalo da ce eris ispast pozitivac ali na kraju je ispala kao veoma dobra glumica , cijela epizoda je pocela dosta suptilno i tiho , gotovo kao nekakva caracter buildin epizoda a zavrsila je sa bitkom i unistenjem uss odiseya , sve skupa dominij izgleda cak i kao veca prijetnja nego borg u Q-who epizodi , iako su istini za volju klasa ispod borga
Jem hadaru prvom se zelja za klingoncima nije ostvarila ali jedna stvar je jasna , osnivaci su vec u alphi i vec dugo motre federaciju i ostalu ekipu , njihov je rat poceo mnogo prije nego sto su fedsi bili svijesni prijetnje koju dominij donosi
Sve skupa dosta dobra i prijeteca epizoda

Moram ga stavit tu

Ovo mi je bas odlicna epizoda bila

dobra epizoda....
i konačno je poceo rat..

Nije , sluzbeno to ruzno konfliktno a na ekranu zanimljivo zbivanje pocinje oko 5 sezone , ne oko 3 , ovo je za sada vise nekakav hladni rat , uvertira

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Kao sto ste i komentirali, sve pocelo idilicno s izletom u prirodu... ok ne bas skroz idilicno za Siska jer su im se pridruzili i Quark i Nog
Nekak mi nije sjelo ono Jakeovo da ce Nog ispasti iz skole ako ne napravi taj znanstveni rad.... nekako ne vjerujem da bi ga Keiko izbacila

Dok sam gledao epizodu, primjetio to sto pise i u dertaljima - da jos nisu do kraja definirali Dominion - Vorte kasnije nemaju telekineticke sposobnosti, a niti je vortica ikako reagirala na Odu...

Odlican quote, @Captain, svako malo postas isti onaj koji bih i ja izabrao kao naj
Ono na kraju "if you'll excuse me, I have a lock to pick" je ispalo genijalno

Quark je dao jos jedan slican quote u kasnijim epizodama - u stilu ako ljude stavis u ocajnu situaciju - od "sveca" ce postati gori od Klingonaca...

Sta bi bilo da je Galaxy vidjen u epizodi bio Picardov - pitam se kako li bi se tada sve skupa odvijalo...
Any idea, anybody?

Takodjer, pitam se kuda se Vortica teleportirala na kraju epizode?!

Ne bih se 100% slozio.
Dominij ima slabije brodove i vjerojatno i slabiju tehnologiju od Borga... ali treba tu uzeti mogucnost stancanja stotina brodova i tisuca i tisuca Jem Hadara za kratko vrijeme.... iako bi u direktnim bitkama Dominij bio slabiji, imaju mogucnost neogranicenog "war of attrition"-a (kako bi se to prevelo na hrvatski?), puno veceg nego ga Borg ima...
Koliko je ono Jem Hadar brodova sprijeceno da prodju kroz Crvotocinu?! Da takva flota udari na centar Borg teritorija, Borg bas i ne bi dobro prosao... pogotovo jer bi mu na pocetku trebalo vremena da se adaptira na dominionsku tehnologiju.... a dok se adaptira popusi ko da su ga napali futuristicki Voyager zajedno s vrstom 8472

I za kraj -
Ima li itko vise informacija o tome?

Borg kontrolira mnogo veci teritorij i ima vece rezerve unutar tog teritorija , bit je da ako dominij ima 10 tisuca brodova , borg ih ima 30 mozda i 40 tisuca ,uvijek malo vise a i borgovi su prodovi masovniji i razorniji , jednako skloni samoubilackim napadima kao jem hadar u slucaju potrebe (ili jednostavno skloni samounistenju)

To sve stoji, fajt bi bio opak, ali reci ti meni kako ce Borg asimilirati Foundere, pa cak i Jem Hadare?
Takodjer, kako ce uspjeti asimilirati njihovu tehnologiju, s obzirom na to da se Jem Hadari ne predaju i skloni su samoubilackim napadima.... a Borg je slab protiv neke tehnologije sve dok je ne asimilira.... sjeti se samo kako je Borg prosao u prvom sukobu s Federacijom (malo phasera i vec trecina borg kocke fali
Takodjer, tih 10k je bilo samo prva navala, founderi su smatrali da ce to biti vise nego dovoljno za pokoriti alfa kvadrant...

Asimilirat ce znanje dominija a ako mu founderi budu nedostupni i neiskoristivi ,istrijebit ce ih
Bit ti je da borg moze uletit s kockom dignut sve u zrak a onda asimilirat jedan jedini onesposobljeni jem hadar brod pa onda kad se privikne na tehnologiju napast sve ostale brodove
Borg bi zrtvovao jedan broj kocaka kad bi znao da ce s drugim djelom moc dovrsit akciju
Zamisli ako imas 20 tisuca kocaka , zrtvujes oko 50 kocaka a onda sa 1000 brodova napadnes vec oslabljene jem hadare

Jooooj, čitao sam davno to negdje...
Mislim da nije ništa posebno.
To je ona scena kada se u smiju za šankom...
Mislim da je samo nešto dobacio dok se smijao u njemačkoj verziji..

Svejedno, zanimljiva informacija makar je rekao samo 1 recenicu... na zalost, mislim da scene nema na youtubeu...

Debelo kasnim sa komentarima epizoda, no vrijeme je da se i to promijeni.
Desetka epizodi jer mi je priča odlična. Kao što je već spomenuto, početak je miran, izletnički, gotovo idiličan (naravno, ne za Siska kojem su živci lagano naelektrizirani čim se u runaboutu pojavio Quark), a kasnije se dobro vidjelo da ništa više neće biti nimalo idilično. Uništenje USS Odysseya bio mi je jedan od najšokantnijih prizora u Treku koji sam do tada vidio. Od takvog samoubilačkog napada teško da bi bilo tko spasio brod, bio to Picard ili ne. Samo bi Q pucketanjem prstiju nešto postigao.

Džem (od šljiva) Hadari su mi otpočetka bili fora sa svojim kloukanjem, iako nisu baš izgledali prestrašno kad ih je Sisko mogao razbacati.

*** Ovo je moj 6000. post. ***