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Ne znam, i meni je isto cudno.

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TAS nije kanon... i gdje god ti suprotno kazu... lazu :)

kaj nije da se epizoda Yesteryear (ili neki njeni djelovi) smatraju kanonom?


eh... za pocetak za one koji se ne kuze u engleski... sorry skvadro... prelijen sam da prevodim :?

druga stvar... cisto da kazem da sam pogrjesio kada sam rekao:
Chaky je napisao/la:
TAS nije kanon... i gdje god ti suprotno kazu... lazu :)


prvo wikipedia kaze:
"However, circa 1987, when Star Trek: The Next Generation was debuting, Gene Roddenberry and Paramount Pictures agreed on a new canon policy that made Star Trek: The Animated Series non-canonical, as well as removing the canon status of all technical manuals and novels."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_%28f ... #Star_Trek


pa pogledah malo memory alphu:
"The Star Trek canon is generally defined as all live-action television series and feature films released by Paramount Pictures. With the release of the Animated Series on DVD, the studio appears to have changed its stance, and is now listing the cartoon series (aired 1973–1974), as a part of established canon. [1] [2] [3]"
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Canon

a zadnje sto studio kaze to je zakon... tko nam kriv kad volimo i stujemo proizvode americkih studija :)

dakle TAS sad JE kanon (pa ti budi trekkie :roll: :) )


onda na obicnoj wikipediji ima dio
"Such is the case, for instance, of several concepts that first appeared in the Animated Series' episode "Yesteryear", including The Forge and the city of ShiKahr, and which were later included in the Enterprise three-part story that started with The Forge.[6] However, despite the fact that elements borrowed from the Animated Series are considered canon, the series itself remains decidedly non-canon.[7]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek_canon

tog se vjerojatno Ant sjetio


i sad za one koji ne vole klikati linkove nego citati stvari ovdje :) ... dva zanimljiva citata... vezanih uz kanon

See, people can easily catch us, and say "well, wait a minute, in 'Balance of Terror', they knew that the Romulans had a cloaking device, and then in 'The Enterprise Incident', they don't know anything about cloaking devices, but they're gonna steal this one because it's obviously just been developed, so how the hell do you explain that?" We can't. There are some things we just can't explain, especially when it comes from the third season. So, yes, third season is canon up to the point of contradiction, or where it's just so bad... you know, we kind of cringe when people ask us, "well, what happened in 'Plato's Stepchildren', and 'And the Children Shall Lead', and 'Spock's Brain', and so on — it's like, please, he wasn't even producing it at that point. But, generally, [canon is] the original series, not really the animated, the first movie to a certain extent, the rest of the films in certain aspects but not in all... I know that it's very difficult to understand. It literally is point by point. I sometimes do not know how he's going to answer a question when I go into his office, I really do not always know, and — and I know it better probably than anybody, what it is that Gene likes and doesn't like.[3]

— Richard Arnold, 1991

Another thing that makes canon a little confusing. Gene R. himself had a habit of decanonizing things. He didn't like the way the animated series turned out, so he proclaimed that it was not canon. He also didn't like a lot of the movies. So he didn't much consider them canon either. And – okay, I'm really going to scare you with this one – after he got TNG going, he... well... he sort of decided that some of The Original Series wasn't canon either. I had a discussion with him once, where I cited a couple things that were very clearly canon in The Original Series, and he told me he didn't think that way anymore, and that he now thought of TNG as canon wherever there was conflict between the two. He admitted it was revisionist thinking, but so be it.[4]

— Paula Block, 2005


i za sam kraj MHO...
kanon je TNG, pa TOS u onome sto ne proturjeci TNGu, pa DS9 sto ne proturjeci TOSu i TNGu, itd. po tome kako su snimane serije :)
znam da nije fer... ali nekak mi se to cini najboljim... meni... ne nuzno (tj. vrlo vjerojatno) ne i vama ;) :)

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Ant je napisao/la:
ok, zasto su pojedini detalji tasa ubrojeni u kanon.

Nisu. Sluzbeno nisu.
Druga je stvar sto je vec manje-vise prihvaceno da je April prvi kapetan, ta spomenuta epizoda Yesteryear i slicno. Enterprise je povukao neke sitnice iz TAS-a u cetvrtoj sezoni kada je konacno netko odlucio malo vise obratiti pozornost na TOS, pa cak i TAS, kao vremensko razdoblje najboliže Enterpriseu.

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Chaky je napisao/la:
eh... za pocetak za one koji se ne kuze u engleski... sorry skvadro... prelijen sam da prevodim :?

Buuuucooooo!!

Chaky je napisao/la:
dakle TAS sad JE kanon (pa ti budi trekkie :roll: :) ):)

Bacio sam pogled na ono, ne znam od kud su ovi sa MA izvukli to, no nigdje ne pise da je kanon. U glavnom clanku o TAS-u pise da "ne uvazava privilegiju kanona" ili tako nesto, a ona tri linkana isto tako samo pisu da TAS mozda zasluzuje "kanonski status," no nigdje ne pise da i je kanon.

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Dali se isplati gledati TAS?

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BrickTop je napisao/la:
Dali se isplati gledati TAS?

pa odgovori prvo na ovo pitanje
Dali si trekkie? :)

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Ja bih vrlo rado gledala TAS i zato me više zanima: kako ga nabaviti?!

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Točkica je napisao/la:
Ja bih vrlo rado gledala TAS i zato me više zanima: kako ga nabaviti?!

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Točkica je napisao/la:
Ja bih vrlo rado gledala TAS i zato me više zanima: kako ga nabaviti?!


Jel si u međuvremenu nabavila?


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Jesam. :D

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E super, sad ću imat s kim pričat u anketama. :veselje2:


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I dalje nemam TAS. :whatever:


Wow, tu je bio kralj svemira... 8-[

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Torrenti, sunčece ti presvetlo.


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Miki je napisao/la:
Torrenti, sunčece ti presvetlo.

Lol, nemam ni internet doma, a kamoli torrent. :(

Btw, samo stavi neograničeno trajanje anketa, tako da mogu dat ocjenu kad uspijem pogledat, može? :sweetlook:

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Post Re: Da li se isplati gledati TAS?
Tak znači, surfa se po forumima dok si na poslu, a? :lol:

Kak ćeš onda odgledat epke? Stavio sam ti jutub linkove u epizode da odgledaš.

A za ocjene ne moraš brinut, tak sam i u TOS ostavio everlasting ankete.


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